Ed Stein: Sharks! Cue the Jimmy Buffet Music

At some point, I assume Stoner will again be placed on waivers. If unclaimed, he's sent to San Diego and $950,000 is added to the cap. I think BM is figuring out how to keep Lindholm and Fowler. imo

Looking forward to a good game . Real test of how the team is progressing . I'd like to see gibby tonight and bernier tommorow. Prediction . Silverburg gets on the score sheet with 2 points and sami with goal as well . Over under on the fights in this game is two and a half . Time for boll to establish himself .

Murray should be strung up and gutted like a pig for letting this get to this point - actually considering a trade for your Stud D man -
Every other GM would have handled this better - What a Colossal dummy.

Ducks have been playing better - still room for improvement - Seeing the game Sunday - the Kids looked good out there and they add a little more speed to the lineup esp on the 4th line - NR looks so much better this yr it's good to see - the D needs to tighten up still get a little scrambled in their own end - This is a big 2 nights back to back need to get at least 3 of 4 to keep the mo going -

Pointing out Haley but not Boll? lol

Murray should be strung up and gutted like a pig for letting this get to this point - actually considering a trade for your Stud D man -
Every other GM would have handled this better - What a Colossal dummy.

Ducks have been playing better - still room for improvement - Seeing the game Sunday - the Kids looked good out there and they add a little more speed to the lineup esp on the 4th line - NR looks so much better this yr it's good to see - the D needs to tighten up still get a little scrambled in their own end - This is a big 2 nights back to back need to get at least 3 of 4 to keep the mo going -
- dozerD10

ONE rumor was generated by a beat writer. Murray's response to that rumor: "He's full of $hit." I get you would have signed Lindholm for 8 Million/year. I get it. Problem is if Theodore is similar in Corsi when it's time for his new contract, then he gets 8 million too. Etc., etc. I'm willing to see what Lindholm actually signs for. If around 6M instead, good for BM. Now, if the worst happens and he's traded, or fails to sign by Dec. 1, then I'll join you in the tirade. Conversely, if he signs for 5.5 to 6M for 6 years as being reported, I hope you'll be the first to congratulate BM on an excellent signing. Unfortunately, I doubt you will.

Pointing out Haley but not Boll? lol
- CrownedKing

I like Haley, however I don't think much of his hockey acumen.

ONE rumor was generated by a beat writer. Murray's response to that rumor: "He's full of $hit." I get you would have signed Lindholm for 8 Million/year. I get it. Problem is if Theodore is similar in Corsi when it's time for his new contract, then he gets 8 million too. Etc., etc. I'm willing to see what Lindholm actually signs for. If around 6M instead, good for BM. Now, if the worst happens and he's traded, or fails to sign by Dec. 1, then I'll join you in the tirade. Conversely, if he signs for 5.5 to 6M for 6 years as being reported, I hope you'll be the first to congratulate BM on an excellent signing. Unfortunately, I doubt you will.
- quackup

I will sing his praises no joke - at any price he gets 47 signed for
-my main issue is he should have done 47 long before - Sami / RR / and those other jokers -

I will sing his praises no joke - at any price he gets 47 signed for
-my main issue is he should have done 47 long before - Sami / RR / and those other jokers -
- dozerD10

And my point is blame Lindholm for asking for 7.5M. LINDHOLM is to blame for not signing earlier, not BM. Lets see what he signs for. If it's 5.5-6M, if he was willing to accept that amount in June, he would have been signed.

Now, if Lindholm signs for 7.5 or 8M per year, THEN I blame Murray for not signing him earlier.

And my point is blame Lindholm for asking for 7.5M. LINDHOLM is to blame for not signing earlier, not BM. Lets see what he signs for. If it's 5.5-6M, if he was willing to accept that amount in June, he would have been signed.

Now, if Lindholm signs for 7.5 or 8M per year, THEN I blame Murray for not signing him earlier.
- quackup

Here's what I was told, Lindholm was asking for Ekblad money from day one and wouldn't budge. Murray was OK with 8 years but there was no chance he was going to get $7.5 million per year. This went on for months, then his buddy and roommate Rackell signs and all of a sudden Lindholm drops his number to $6.5 million per. They're also talking too. Murray is trying to clear cap space now and trading Fowler is the nuclear option. It won't happen unless nothing else can be done.

And just to be clear he is worth 7.5 - he's 3 yrs in @ 22 and a complete stud -
If he came Down from that good on him - but for Murray to suggest he's comparable to ristolinin is nuts -
And regarding the rumor .... ya Murray said the reporter was full of it ... I also sat there when he told me/us - that 47 would be done aug/sep - but now Murray is a truth teller.....

And just to be clear he is worth 7.5 - he's 3 yrs in @ 22 and a complete stud -
If he came Down from that good on him - but for Murray to suggest he's comparable to ristolinin is nuts -
And regarding the rumor .... ya Murray said the reporter was full of it ... I also sat there when he told me/us - that 47 would be done aug/sep - but now Murray is a truth teller.....
- dozerD10

Oh no, Murray HAS to know he screwed the pooch with Lindholm and, to a lesser extent, Rackell. Horrific cap management and a horrible misjudgement on his part.

And just to be clear he is worth 7.5 - he's 3 yrs in @ 22 and a complete stud -
If he came Down from that good on him - but for Murray to suggest he's comparable to ristolinin is nuts -
And regarding the rumor .... ya Murray said the reporter was full of it ... I also sat there when he told me/us - that 47 would be done aug/sep - but now Murray is a truth teller.....
- dozerD10

Maybe if Ekblad hadn't signed that 7.5M contract, Lindholm would have signed in August or Sept. Look, I get you think #47 is worth that much. Fine. If he signs for less, then I guess not. Then I'm glad I have BM as the GM and not you. If he signs for 7.5M, I applaud you, since THEN you would be right.

We're not going to agree, so let's just let it rest. If he signs in the 5.5-6.0M range, then I rest my case. If he signs for over 7M, then I applaud you. If he doesn't sign, or is traded, then I'll join you in the Murray tar and feather party.

Here's what I was told, Lindholm was asking for Ekblad money from day one and wouldn't budge. Murray was OK with 8 years but there was no chance he was going to get $7.5 million per year. This went on for months, then his buddy and roommate Rackell signs and all of a sudden Lindholm drops his number to $6.5 million per. They're also talking too. Murray is trying to clear cap space now and trading Fowler is the nuclear option. It won't happen unless nothing else can be done.
- duxcup07

Dont need to be told or be any type of insider for this news. Sorry guy, but this was inevitable after the signing of ekblad. Sorry you needed to get told this.

And just to be clear he is worth 7.5 - he's 3 yrs in @ 22 and a complete stud -
If he came Down from that good on him - but for Murray to suggest he's comparable to ristolinin is nuts -
And regarding the rumor .... ya Murray said the reporter was full of it ... I also sat there when he told me/us - that 47 would be done aug/sep - but now Murray is a truth teller.....
- dozerD10

Not really sure how people can't agree to this. This guy should back the D in Anaheim for years to come. For me, I hope he's traded. This kid can play

Im sorry people . But this is capitalism . You get what you can get . Its pointless to debate what hampus is worth . It only matters what he can get . If you wana point fingers then point it at his agent . This deal should have been done last year . His agent had a falling out last year with his partner and now is trying to pull a deal with very little cap space . I hope hampus signs soon but if he doesn't we need to move on . No player is bigger than the team .

Not really sure how people can't agree to this. This guy should back the D in Anaheim for years to come. For me, I hope he's traded. This kid can play
- KINGS67

If Lindholm was a pending UFA, then absolutely pay him the 7.5M, but he's not. He's RFA, and has zero "rights" if you will. Yes, he's a great Dman, and may be the #1 we've lacked since Neidermyer/Pronger, but the "team" is potentially screwed going forward since a precedent will be set. As good as #47 is, Larsson is said to be further along than Lindholm was at the same stage of development. Then he's paid 7.5M minimum too when his ELC expires. Etc, etc. Sometimes a GM is forced to hand out a bad contract. BM doesn't need to with 47.

We have to agree to disagree.

Well I Googled "jimmy buffett fins" followed by "jimmy buffett cheeseburger," and now I'm considering renting Club Dread. Thanks Ed! Not only for do you write great Ducks articles, but you ressurect the ancient memes.

What's worse? Losing Bernier and Getzlaf in the mists of a sloppy OT loss or ending up at JimmyBuffettVEVO's YouTube channel?

Anyways, the regular season is 7 games underway and the Ducks are 2-3-2, but have only scored 3 goals or more twice. While the team has displayed more offensive pressure then the start of last season, the catalyst has yet to be seen. I saw Carlyle's take on the wins over the weekend via Ducks Daily and the message was simple, "There is room for improvement."

Besides his reserved temperament, I think Carlyle is a good coach because of the emphasis he puts on ice time. He allocates big minutes to the talented while rewarding players that play well and diminishes TOI of players that underperform. Consequences and rewards were missing from Boudreau's tenure, and I'm glad to have them back. Granted it's not uber substantial, but the TOI spectrum is larger than when Boudreau was calling the shots.

Moving along, Nashville at Anaheim tonight. I expect this team to take the ice with a vengeance. Getzlaf or not, whoever is wearing a Ducks jersey needs to take it upon themselves to bring the offense. Outside of Getzlaf and Fowler the offense hasn't been there yet. They must find a way to redeem last season's underwhelming ending. Crack Rinne dang it!

Lastly, as far as the Hampus Lindholm situation goes, unless something catastrophic happens in the next 2-3 days; I think he could have played his last game as a Duck. He was probably offered numerous long-term deals, but it seems he wants to be payed like a superstar. To be a superstar you have to put up superstar points, and those totals haven't been there. Lindholm is the highest draft pick this franchise has had since Bobby Ryan, so he's always been a fan favorite. Unfortunately this team can't break the bank over a "where you're headed" contract. Like others, I'm defering blame to his agent who must have $ signs for eyes. Unbelievable!

Frank all that! The team in Anaheim is a winning group, and they need to prove that by bringing it tonight against the Predators!

LET'S GO DUCKS!!!

If Lindholm was a pending UFA, then absolutely pay him the 7.5M, but he's not. He's RFA, and has zero "rights" if you will. Yes, he's a great Dman, and may be the #1 we've lacked since Neidermyer/Pronger, but the "team" is potentially screwed going forward since a precedent will be set. As good as #47 is, Larsson is said to be further along than Lindholm was at the same stage of development. Then he's paid 7.5M minimum too when his ELC expires. Etc, etc. Sometimes a GM is forced to hand out a bad contract. BM doesn't need to with 47.

We have to agree to disagree.
- quackup

If Lindholm was from North America, I might agree that he has "zero rights". However, being from Sweden, it's not a stretch for him to return to the SEL or the KHL should he not be able to work out a contract by December 1, the deadline for RFA contracts before they have to miss the entire season. Valeri Nichushkin is currently doing the exact same thing with Dallas.

Lindholm turns 23 this year. That means a 5+ year contract would make him a UFA at expiration. I'm sure the Ducks are either trying to push a 4 year contract, which would make him a RFA at the end of that contract, meaning he'd have limited negotiation power once again in 2020 (although he would be arbitration eligible), or a 8 year contract, which would keep him with the club through his prime. If the Ducks are trying to lowball him on money, the only way Lindholm would accept is if they were offering him a contract in the 5-6 year range. That would make him a UFA at 27 or 28, and eligible for a bigger payday sooner. Anything outside of this range is going to cost more money.

If Lindholm was from North America, I might agree that he has "zero rights". However, being from Sweden, it's not a stretch for him to return to the SEL or the KHL should he not be able to work out a contract by December 1, the deadline for RFA contracts before they have to miss the entire season. Valeri Nichushkin is currently doing the exact same thing with Dallas.

Lindholm turns 23 this year. That means a 5+ year contract would make him a UFA at expiration. I'm sure the Ducks are either trying to push a 4 year contract, which would make him a RFA at the end of that contract, meaning he'd have limited negotiation power once again in 2020 (although he would be arbitration eligible), or a 8 year contract, which would keep him with the club through his prime. If the Ducks are trying to lowball him on money, the only way Lindholm would accept is if they were offering him a contract in the 5-6 year range. That would make him a UFA at 27 or 28, and eligible for a bigger payday sooner. Anything outside of this range is going to cost more money.
- tkecanuck341

Then he can go and play in the KHL (where some players aren't getting paid), or play in the SEL and make a fraction of what he would make with the Ducks. Then the whole thing is repeated next year, because by "no rights", I meant he can't go to another team unless offer sheeted and Ducks don't match.

It's not ideal, but if that's what he wants, so be it. We'll insert Theodore, or Larsson, or Montour (no, none are as good as Lindholm) in the lineup and take our chances. We have options on D minus Lindholm. That's why Rakell signing was so important (some fans argued he was the more important signing), because there's nobody in the system able to replace him. Not so with Lindholm.

Time will tell. All we've heard is rumors. Guess the fact he hasn't asked to be traded is a plus.

Then he can go and play in the KHL (where some players aren't getting paid), or play in the SEL and make a fraction of what he would make with the Ducks. Then the whole thing is repeated next year, because by "no rights", I meant he can't go to another team unless offer sheeted and Ducks don't match.

It's not ideal, but if that's what he wants, so be it. We'll insert Theodore, or Larsson, or Montour (no, none are as good as Lindholm) in the lineup and take our chances. We have options on D minus Lindholm. That's why Rakell signing was so important (some fans argued he was the more important signing), because there's nobody in the system able to replace him. Not so with Lindholm.

Time will tell. All we've heard is rumors. Guess the fact he hasn't asked to be traded is a plus.
- quackup

At least not publicly.

At least not publicly.
- tkecanuck341

Very true.

ONLY IN ANAHEIM

ONLY IN ANAHEIM
- KINGS67

I can't tell what that is.

Lindholm signs. 6 years @ 5.25M per year. Good job BM, great deal for the Ducks.